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Hi just going to post this here to see if its ok to post this so all can see dont want yo bring more shit beforr going to the others. I will post this later today if noone disagrees with the me here.



I dont know what you all think abput last night.  But to me it felt like a kindergarden. The cool kids didnt listen and everyone got the blame.  If you feel targeted by that you should reconsider to shape up. Cause not only are you wasting your time but you are ruining the others time. 

There was a lot the was wrong last night but dont blame it all on those who said to stop talk. Try and help instead we had several people that was afraid to say anything just cause some people stoped caring. 

I got the excuse Im here to have fun. We are all here to have some fun. But your fun just ruined  the fun for 20 others.

All I can say to ppl:

BE PATIENT, BE PATIENT, BE PATIENT!!!

It's a hard job for officers to keep all people motivated, prepare for 25 man raids (lot of us underestimate the changes I think), explaining, listening, replying, deviding loot... etc etc.

Also we need to get use to eachothers playstyle and we have to "rebuild" the team, teamspirit. It's not like the 10 man we're so used to do.

Just stick with it. It went a hell of a lot better last night, after Malkorok. We joked around, talked, even during boss fights, and ppl did what they are supose to do.

They faster we learn now and build our team, the better we'll perform in WoD and even come in top 10.

just my 2cts.

It's unfortunate that most of the sensible discussions happened after Sombra and Rysler threw their dummies out of the pram, but I'm not sure it's worth going over that again and perhaps we should focus a little on the positive story instead. How about a post like this:


Guys,
So anyone who was in the raid last night probably got pretty pissed off for one reason or another, so the council are putting this post up to talk about that.

Firstly, can I make a huge thankyou to everyone who stuck it out to the end of the raid. After Malkorok, things clicked and we started enjoying ourselves. You would have noticed that at that point we didn't have to ask people to stay off Teamspeak or keep raid chat empty, in fact the discussion was adult, constructive and fun - so well done to everyone for that, it shows that we can work as a team!

Secondly, there is still a massive amount we can all do to improve, and I mean raiders AND officers. It's been a while since I was GM of a 25 man guild and I've got some re-learning to do. I'll try to take some points here for everyone to digest and try to improve.

Raid Leading
We probably sucked quite a lot at the start and we did get very frustrated when people weren't listening. For us, I think we can handle that a little better next time and I'll work on that with the officers.

Listening
This was probably what initially caused the anger. Can I ask everyone to please listen to what the leaders are saying, it's not always a fun job to lead, especially in 25man when there are so many people doing their own thing. This also applies to when the raid leader asks you to perform a specific task. Sometimes what you are asked to do sounds counter intuitive but if you can follow those orders it makes things smoother. We are a team!

Whispering Officers
This is a sticky issue. We would love to be able to answer everyone, but it's not possible. It's also very confusing to have multiple whisper conversations at the same time. You might have some really useful stuff to say but it's almost always better to either put it on this forum (boss tactics, suggestions, QQing about things) or ask for a private chat outside raid where we can devote some attention to you.

Changes I am going to make
1. First of all, I am going to allocate a specific raid leader during each raid. for all intents and purposes, during a raid, that person is God and we will all follow what they say. I think having this clarity will help.

2. When problems occur, I will try to ensure that we are not going to get pissed off but will pause the raid (not during bossfight!) and try to explain what the problem is and how we are going to deal with it.

3. We are now on a recruitment drive and pushing hard. This will help us get enough people to manage 25man raids and allow us to cover for signouts, illness and, more controversially if we bench someone. I've learned in the past that it's better to have a player doing 70% healing/DPS than a better player if that person is playing with the team and pulling in the same direction.

4. We will try to stick to 25man but there may be times where we have to drop to 10 for the whole reset (unfortunately we can't switch between sizes) For example, we have Easter coming up which means a few signouts, so I might take the opportunity to drop raid size for that week. With this in mind, can people sign up for raids as soon as possible to allow us to make this decision early.

5. I'm going to make sure everyone is using this forum, I think there may be some people not signed up yet and those who are may not be using it. I will be talking to those people.

Anyway, I'm sure there is more discussion to be had. Can you please nudge everyone to use the forum on a regular basis!

Peace out!
/Hog

That actually reads like a well thought out post Hog... Compliments. No objections from my side so far...

nice one Hog

Guys u posted this in coucile

Hahahaha